It is known that Defendant Trump engaged in other phone calls with state officials and legislators during the weeks before the Electoral College met on Dec. The man who for decades prided himself on never committing anything to paper, email, or texts, has found himself trapped by his own words. The significant thing about the special counsel's focus on the fake elector scheme is that it is one of two areas of his investigation where they can put Defendant Trump in the room discussing the commission of a felony, or alternatively, on the phone conspiring with others, in this case, Giuliani and Bowers. This is totally foreign as an idea or a theory, to me, and I would never do anything of such magnitude without deep consultation with qualified attorneys.''īowers is talking here, of course, about the Arizona portion of the fake elector conspiracy that is known to be the main focus of Smith's investigation and possible prosecution of Defendant Trump. I said, 'Look, you are asking me to do something that is counter to my oath when I swore to the Constitution to uphold it, and I also swore to the Constitution and the laws of the state of Arizona. And we would - we would like to have the legitimate opportunity through the committee to come to that end and - and remove that. 'He said, well, we have heard by an official high up in the Republican legislature that there is a legal theory or a legal ability in Arizona that you can remove the - the electors of President Biden and replace them. 6 committee amounts to evidence that Defendant Trump joined in a phone conversation during which he and Giuliani were asking Bowers to join them in a conspiracy to commit a felony:

Recall that both Giuliani and Trump were on the phone with Bowers, and it is unclear to whom Bowers was referring when he says 'he,' but what he described for the Jan. The second 'ask' Bowers described at length, and it's worth quoting here, because this is the kind of evidence the special counsel has obviously gotten from Bowers during what he described as a four-hour interview with FBI agents. The first was that he hold an official inquiry by the Arizona legislature to look at evidence Giuliani said he had that 200,000 'illegal immigrants' and some 6,000 dead people had voted in the election in Arizona, evidence that Bowers testified Giuliani never came up with.

Jack Smith is digging into Trump's bizarre post-election Oval Office meeting: reportīowers told the Committee that Defendant Trump and Giuliani had two 'asks,' as he called them. 6 committee about the call he got from Defendant Trump and Giuliani. Bowers has not said what he talked about with Defendant Trump alone on the phone, but he testified movingly before the House Jan. Later, Bowers spoke with Defendant Trump alone, without Giuliani or any other aides in on the phone call. The first conversation was with Defendant Trump and his then-lawyer and friend Rudy Giuliani. It turns out that Defendant Trump, famously averse to putting things down on paper or sending texts and emails, was making use of one of the things he wasn't afraid of – in-person meetings and talking on the telephone, into which he spoke incriminating words making illegal demands that are now in special counsel Smith's crosshairs.ĬNN reported this week that the FBI has spoken to former Arizona Speaker of the House Rusty Bowers about two conversations he had with Defendant Trump in November of 2020. That is to say, the verbiage spewed by those jaws back in 2020 is coming back to bite his own capacious ass.ĭefendant Trump was trying to overturn the election he had lost, the election he had been told by his campaign advisers that he lost, the election evidence gathered by special counsel Jack Smith shows that he knew he lost, and he engaged in every scammy little gambit he could think of to accomplish his ill-begotten and illegal goal. One of the great ironies of this century, or any other for that matter, is that the jaws are Defendant Trump's own. The jaws of justice are beginning to tighten around the ankles of Defendant Trump.

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